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CONTENTS
In 1998 Police
Going Wild in Los Angeles and Texas
How
To Influence Changing Prostitution Laws
Ideas on How To Play The Game And Try And Avoid Stings by the Law
Paying for Sensual Enjoyment Can Be Legal- you just can not pay for sex
Marc Perkel's Legal Idea To Test in the Courts
Developing Safe, Sensuous Encounters
Experiences
Of Others Regarding Legal/Police Issues
Police Identifying
Themselves
Mexico City has
the right idea!
In Houston New Law Makes Strip Clubs More Dangerous Than Toxic Waste
Disclaimers
In 1998 Police
Going Wild in Los Angeles and Texas
Seems like the Police don't have enough real crime to fight so their doing
their sex stings in both Los Angeles strip clubs and against Texas sex workers....ironic
Clinton can have lots of sex but not plain folk!
In Los Angeles dancers being busted at many clubs for lewd conduct. From a
public post a man says" Talked with one of the girls that was busted (at just
one of the clubs). She said 12 girls were busted and most were busted for
lewd conduct on stage. Lewd conduct for most was apparently touching their
breasts. Sheesh. She was aware that touching her nipples was out of bounds
but had no idea that just touching her breasts was an issue. Ordinances in
this area a just plain silly.
In the next bust, 2 dancers were busted, one for not wearing her shorts when
off stage. Didn't get the story on the other one but she doesn't even take
her pants off on stage so I'm sure it was nothing to write home about. The
club was also busted for having a fly in one of the alcohol bottles behind
the bar. Boy, these vice guys sure must be bored.
Sorry to say they have started busting customers for the first
time. Customers were ticketed for hugging and kissing dancers off stage as
well as masturbating inside the booths.
Also, it is very clear now that the LAPD now has some sort of quota that they
have to meet. One of the vice officers told me that they have to meet the
quota, period. Apparently, this includes busting dancers who were not doing
anything wrong. Even the waitress was almost busted until she told the vice
cops that she's not even a dancer. There's been sweeps before but this one
is still on going and busts are still coming down.
Ironically, one of the customers arrested at Star Strip 2 is a lawyer. I don't
think he's a criminal lawyer but he was using the "S" word a lot.
Busted for RESORTING?
Here's another silly thing LA Cops are doing: Watch out for Los Angeles cops
who will bust your ass on a phony charge of "Resorting " A man said: I got
locked up a couple nights for this charge. I was under the impression the
charge "Resorting" was voided but it is being again per couples desiring sexual
relations. Resorting is a charge of having sexual intercourse while not married
to each other.
Another person said: *Resorting?* The state Supreme Court threw out that ordinance
30 years ago in the famous Carol Lane case, and if cops are still using it
to make busts, it would be good grounds for a false arrest suit. The ordinance
forbade "resorting" to a room for purposes of fornication, paid or unpaid.
Even worse in Dallas/Houston
The police and Feds scaring folks in Dallas/Houston this from public post:
This is Heather, and I just wanted all here to know I've enjoyed hangin out
here in the NG, getting to see everybody's POV's, but unfortunately, there's
just too much going on with the nice policemen on here, and now the feds are
involved.... what business they have here is beyond me, but they have alot
more ability to wreak havoc on one's life than the nice policemen do. Dallas
is bad enough, but when it hits in Houston, it's just not something I want
to be involved with in even the remotest indirect way.
If there are any federal crime lawyers hangin out in here, I'd love to hear
how RICO statutes apply in here. Once again I ask, whoever has the real story
on the application of RICO to one of the NG's own, speak out. When you keep
information to yourself, you hurt us all. If you need to do so anonymously,
that's fine. Better an anonymous post than no post at all when it concerns
these situations. No, I have not been taken down, but as I always say, better
safe than sorry, as I might be mistaken for a ruthless criminal. Just as DOS
has disappeared into sunset, so must I. I pass the torch on to those responsible
participants here in the NG. Keep up the good work, and don't let the rip-offs
and scam/spam artists get you down.
A reply: Regarding RICO, it covers any on-going criminal enterprise that the
Feds want to involve themselves with. Still, single individuals would seem
to be a foolish waste of federal resources, even if they are escorts. It would
cost the feds in excess of $100,000 per defendant to prosecute this. More
if the defendant appeals. Federal prosecutors are after big name defendants,
not little fish -- usually.
Similarly, use of the telephone can cause a federal wire fraud charge to be
added to those of the state, but prosecuting is very expensive to nab single
operators.
These things are more of a worry for agencies than for individuals. In short,
the risks are there, but... It can also be used as an incentive to "roll"
on others.
Now the IRS is another matter. If your taxes are not properly filed and paid,
then they WILL come after you.
How many escorts are there in the US? There are not enough jails to hold them
all if the feds really started prosecuting on this. This activity seems to
be confined to Texas at the moment. Maybe the good governor down there is
hoping to divert attention from the execution of a woman by harassing other
women.
I think my advice to all the escorts of the Lone Star state is to relocate
to another area
How To Influence Changing
Prostitution Laws
The prostitution laws are unnecessarily intrusive and deny us a basic human
right of sexual fulfillment and control over our own bodies.
What's more it maybe fun for the police to do stings of prostitutes.
Why bust a crack house that might have a gun cache when you can hassle a poor
woman doing honest work and her clients? The police may even get to see some
nice naked women and be able to "feel them up" since in most states entrapment
is allowable for a police officer. They can show that they are working
hard to protect the community, while staying safe from those annoying bullets.
One thing I've learned about cops is never to underestimate the lengths that
they will go to, or what they can get away with!
Obviously street prostitution is a more complex issue and often is associated
with desperation vs. choice and is often drug related. Prostitution laws in
public settings are understandable. However, for the law to control your options
either as a sex worker, or customer in a private home with another consenting
adult is intrusive. Especially when sexual fulfillment is such a basic human
desire. Paying a fee is just like paying to have a good dinner to fulfill
our need to have food. The need for good sex is almost as important for many
of us.
With our cultures twisted values of sexual repression which interferes
with sexual fulfillment we have to fight a social stigma against speaking
out when laws are proposed in favor of sensuous encounters.
How many of us are willing to appear before the city council and express
our adult view of wanting to conduct ourselves in our bedrooms as we as individuals
see fit - always with the understanding that no one be hurt or made to do
what they do not wish. Knowing how social pressure works, it is not surprising
that our laws regarding sexual behavior are so restrictive. The Internet,
however, may provide a communication medium for adjusting the laws to be more
in line with what is acceptable to the general public rather than just acceptable
to the conservative groups wanting to control and suppress sensuous activity.
Few folks would feel comfortable standing before the city council expressing
their views about sexual conduct. They would fear they would be setting themselves
up for harassment by cops, media and conservative groups. I think such pressure
keeps a large number of us with a common sentiment quiet about our sexual
wishes. The Internet, however allows communication without as much social
stigma. I can imagine myself comfortably sending email to council members,
city officials or the media regarding my views. It may be that if enough people
were to express their desire to get the penal codes of your state, out of
our bedrooms, the politicians who also are probably sympathetic to such a
notion, might be willing to adjust the penal code wording to be more respectful
of individual rights.
I suggest what we should try and mobilize to do is to start being vocal
in support of having laws relevant to prostitution be effective only in public
settings. We should aim to exempt the behavior of consenting adults in a private
setting such as a house or an apartment.
There is a great web site by "Clarity" in Texas that is supporting this
very strongly at (link now dead) She has excellent information regarding the
Texas laws, Court cases and many other aspects of the legal issues surrounding
sex work. The same ideas and concerns are appropriate for all states and local
governments.
San Francisco has come the furthest having held public hearings, which
resulted in a recommendation for decriminalization of prostitution. They full
report is very interesting and many ideas could be used as a model for other
cities to study. See The San Francisco Task Force on Prostitution: Final Report
March 1996 (link now broken)
But changing laws is a long-term solution. In the meantime we have to play
the game of not being a victim of repressive nonsense laws against sex work
with consenting adults.
Ideas on How To Play The Game
And Try And Avoid Stings by the Law
Instead of asking for "full service" make an oral agreement on the phone call
for "massage, hugging and non-sexual caressing". Exactly the good touch non-sexual
activities we encourage sex workers to provide, which are totally legal. If
the sex worker decides she would also enjoy more sexual activities with you...that
should be separate from what you are paying for. If you only pay a sex
worker for legal companion services and the sex worker only takes money
for legal caring touch, neither of you have technically broken the law.
This is the same suggestion I make in The Phoenix Report - The Rip
Offs vs. Legitimate Honest Sex Workers section on
HOW TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST SCAMS (this is a long report it has to fully
load and then it will take you to this bookmarked section) which tries to
avoid legal problems by only being nude models or dancing. To avoid
the rip off I suggest agreeing to the more high touch services but which are
legal and what some folks highly enjoy anyway.
While I say you may have not "technically" broken the law, it is not without
risk since if you were ever caught in a sting, it might be hard to convince
a judge or jury of your intentions. However, since only prostitution
cases would probably be much easier for win, the District Attorney could decide
not to try and charge you and fight it.
Paying for Sensual Enjoyment Can Be Legal
you just can not pay for sex
Ideas For Sex Workers That Might Reduce Legal Risk
Policies:
I never guarantee sex or anything that is tantamount to prostitution (illegal)
and it's rather unsafe to guarantee it when I don't know who I am dealing
with. I have to consider my own safety as well as my other clients'. If we're
mutually attracted to each other and we've spent some fun time together, then
I view our time more like a real date with real possibilities, but without
any additional fee.
How To Answer Questions:
-Are you a "full-service" escort?
This is just a way of asking me if I guarantee sex. I do not guarantee sex
because that is illegal.
-Have you ever had sex with a client?
Yes, but I never guarantee it because that is illegal. If I like the way a
gentleman is treating me and he isn't constantly trying to push me... I am
much more likely to take a more sexual interest in him. I am extremely turned
off by pushy men who can't see beyond sex. There is a vast difference between
consensual sex and contractual sex.
-What do you do if you don't guarantee sex?
I can assure you that I make a great companion and that most men hire me to
avoid the embarrassment and awkwardness of dining alone or attending a business
function without a date. I am also frequently hired for my companionship (I
play a mean game of chess if you think you can take me on).
Sometimes I provide a change of pace from an inattentive wife. I don't view
it as men paying me to be with them. I view my clients as benefactors who
subsidize my income so I can commit myself to being a good companion.
-I can rescue you from this terrible profession!
Please don't! I don't want or need a knight-in-shining-armor. I like traveling.
I like meeting men. I like nice dinners and hotels. I like hot tubs and I
love being spoiled. This is NOT a demeaning job. I chose this because I can
control my hours and my own fate instead of grinding away in some cubicle.
"Clarity's" site has some outstanding ideas about How To End the Legal
Session and move on to being friends and having sex without any payment.
Readers also point out the risks of being "believed." You also have
to be very careful as extracts from actual court cases show which are published
on Clarity's site. This is an outstanding site for more detailed legal
research. The main page with index frame is at link broken..
I REALLY LIKE WHAT CLARITY SAYS (and it applies all over not just in Texas):
(Note: While the web link to their site is long gone, the source of the "Clarity"
articles mentioned on this page is actually Morris Key)
As stated in the Overview of the Clarity site, "There are numerous laws
related to when, where and how consenting adults can or cannot sensuously
enjoy themselves in Texas. As a result of confusion about these laws, there
may be a tendency to limit our behavior unnecessarily." It is my hope, and
one of the purposes of the Clarity site, to become more familiar with what
behavior is legally allowed between consenting adults. In order to explore
the boundaries of legal behavior it seems like it would be useful to better
understand what constitutes illegal behavior or prostitution (since prostitution
is currently illegal in Texas).
As the legal boundaries of prostitution are explored, this should not be taken
to indicate encouragement of illegal prostitution. My interest is in encouraging
legal sensuous encounters between consenting adults. Under no circumstance
do I condone or encourage illegal behavior. What is frustrating to me, and
probably others, is not knowing where the line is drawn between legal and
illegal sensuous behavior. I'm reminded of playing board games as a kid where
the rules of the game were printed on the inside of the lid of the box. No
such rules were provided with consenting adults. One purpose of this site
could be viewed as discovering those rules and making them available to other
consenting adults.
As I better understand the rules I intend to abide by them and encourage others
to abide by the rules as well. If we find the rules are not to our liking,
then I encourage that we use the mechanisms of society to go about changing
or modifying undesirable rules. I do not, nor does this site encourage breaking
the rules or disobeying the law just because we do not like the rules or law.
As I have stated in many places on this site, I am not a lawyer. However,
I am not wealthy enough to hire a lawyer to do the necessary research to determine
the boundaries of legal sensuous encounters. Therefore, I will continue to
do what I can to discover the limits of legal sensuous encounters. At times
this will undoubtedly involve my exploring the limits, facts and characteristics
of prostitution as a way of finding out what not to do as long as prostitution
is illegal in Texas.
Here is a cute idea that probably won't work...
Psychic Reading Game
I once showed up for an incall appointment only to have the lady assure me
that she would not have sex for money because it is illegal but that she could
provide me with a wonderful "psychic reading" for $150 (this was a long time
ago).
When I indicated that I was not interested and started to leave, she laid
a gentle hand on my shoulder and urged me to give the reading a try because
she was sure that I would enjoy it tremendously, be satisfied, etc. Despite
being almost sure I was about to be ripped off, I finally agreed and paid
her (she was a babe, I could afford it and wanted to believe her...well, you
know how it is). So, she looks at my palm and then holds a crystal to her
forehead while "meditating" a few moments; then she rattles off some "reading"
which sounds like she memorized something from a newspaper horoscope column.
By now I am deathly sure I have been had and am feeling like a complete fool.
However, before I can figure out how to launch into my complaint, she says
something about how powerfully attractive and sexual my "aura" is and asks
if I would like to join her in the bedroom.
She ended up delivering quite satisfactory full service, but as we were getting
undressed she said something like "we are just doing this because we want
to, not for money, right?". I agreed of course.
I later asked an attorney friend, who had previously been a public defender
who had handled many prosecution cases, if he thought her system would do
her any good in court. He explained the "duck test" (see below) and said her
idea was cute enough that it might give the judge and the two attorneys a
brief chuckle "in chambers" before they plea bargained the case, but nothing
more than that.
The "Duck Test"
Just so no one gets into trouble based on a false sense of security in such
tricks, it should be clear that they actually offer almost no legal protection.
The problem with this defense is that it would not pass what attorneys sometimes
call the "duck test" ("If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks
like a duck, then it is a duck no matter what you might call it.") In other
words, if a man and woman meet (once or repeatedly) and do nothing (much)
other than have sex and if a sum of money anywhere roughly in the range of
typical prostitution charges changes hands from the man to the woman, then
a judge (or a jury in the very unlikely event of a jury trial) will almost
certainly conclude that it is an act of prostitution, no matter how it is
handled in detail. If the man contacted the woman via any means commonly used
by prostitutes to attract customers, the conclusion is even more strongly
supported. Basically, judges (and juries) can and should exercise reasonable
judgment and common sense in interpreting laws and are not required to be
ridiculously literal minded or rigid. All sorts of laws and regulations could
be easily circumvented if the legal system were that easily tricked by minor
charades.
Marc Perkel's
Legal Idea To Test in the Courts
I've written an extensive legal brief having to do with escort services and
prostitution. This is not a civil rights argument but one that plays with
definitions. I argue that escort services are not sex for money, but that
it's a surrogate relationship for money, and sometimes sex occurs.
A movie with a sex sceene is not prositiution, but it is sex for money. What
makes it not prostitution is that it's making a movie for money and sex is
involved.
When a client sees the same escort over and over again it's a relationship.
That isn't prostitution, or so I argue. Anyhow, if any of you has a pending
criminal case, download this and show it to your lawyer. I'd like to see if
it works in court.
See http://www.perkel.com/sex/escort/legal.htm
Developing Safe, Sensuous
Encounters
Again I refer to Clarity who had done an out standing job of guiding sex workers
on how to have safe encounters at (Link now broken)
Other Good Ideas from A Sex Worker On Checking ID etc
January 25, 1998 from "Lovleeone"
I've not been arrested, but I've heard plenty of horror stories from girls
who have been. And the theme running through most of these arrests is that
the girls let their guard down -- they didn't follow their gut instincts.
I'm not saying this happens all the time, but we all have to be constantly
alert to the fact that whoever we meet might not be who they claim to be.
I have pretty tough I.D. criteria and I know it turns some clients off, but
on the other hand it has so far prevented me from having problems.
First of all I NEVER discuss what will happen on the date. My ad says full
service and that is as far as I will go. And I am not real keen on saying
that! If someone pushes me as to what will happen -- I will cut them off and
they will never get a response from me again.
I NEVER do incall. Why invite trouble into my home??? This
not only lets crazies know where you live but also gives the cops access to
your house and all of your computer equipment. This makes it way too easy
for vice. Don't do it. If the guy can't afford a room -- then don't bother.
He can go get a street girl.
I won't go to a sleazy hotel. If the client's entrance to his room is outside
-- I won't go. This again makes it too easy for the cops.
They want to arrest you and get you quietly out of the room. They don't want
to drag you through an elegant lobby with handcuffs. And most nice hotels
would not tolerate this often. It hurts business! If you do go to a nice hotel
and you notice an outdoor entrance close to the room, be alert.
Best thing to do... meet in the lobby for a drink.
When you go in the room check to see if there is an adjoining room. If there
is, be very cautious. Often cops will use this room as a holding area.
If someone is very specific about time, again be careful. They may be getting
ready to do a sting.
Meet for a drink first and don't talk about intimate subjects.
It's a date!
A couple of good ID tricks...
Driver's license (use as a baseline for other ID only -- not as the only ID)
Check book (make sure it matches Drivers License) Credit Cards (if the credit
cards are all platinum -- probably not a cop) Company I.D. Paycheck stub (make
sure it matches) If they are from out of town, ask them to let you call them.
The long distance charge is minimal. Business Card Have a phone line at home
that they have to call you on so you can check with Caller ID. Caller ID works
nationally now too. If the name/work address doesn't match up... Ask why.
If someone is local and they want you to come to their house make them call
you and check the caller ID name. Most cops don't want you to know where they
live. And then make sure the driver's license and phone name match up. When
someone emails you, check out the email address. For example, I am very leery
of hotmail and rocketmail addresses as well as gte and swbell and to an extent
aol, compuserve and prodigy. If the email address has a company name in it
you can also scan for the web site. For example someone
emails you and their address is something like JohnBrown@asp.com, go and check
out www.asp.com and see what it is. Avoid last minute appointments. If someone
calls and says, hey I have a few hours, let's meet... Question why?
I don't require all of those things. In most cases, I weigh all the
evidence. If someone willing tells me what they do, shows a company credit
card, driver's license, etc. that usually works. There are also many questions
a person can ask that will give you clues as to whether the person is real
or not.
And last but not least... Use your instincts. If the guy
seems smug, laid back, smooth, be cautious. Most customers are as nervous
as we are. If you get a funny feeling, say... "this isn't working." and leave.
And remember, it's your life... Don't risk your life, reputation, etc. on
a measly $150 bucks. Keep in mind that if you get busted it will be on your
record and may affect you being able to get a traditional job in the future!
99% of employers check criminal records now.
And guys... if you want to meet, don't balk at our precautions. You won't
get an appointment with me if I sense an attitude coming off of you. It's
just not worth the risk to me.
Meeting up with someone who is extraordinarily cautious is to client's
benefit. These people are usually careful in other aspects of their lives,
i.e., health, discretion, etc. Do you want someone who is a flake (ask Clinton
about flaky women)? If I was a man, I'd feel more comfortable with someone
who wanted to make sure everything was on the up and up before subjecting
myself to possible arrest.
Dave's Comments:
If anyone knows a sex worker friendly attorney it would be very interesting
to get more legal help in this area. It may be hard to find attorney's
to give advice on how to avoid legal problems however, since they are paid
for helping sex workers after they are arrested and are desperate for legal
help. I'd like to promote whatever we can do to keep folks from having
to go through the terrible emotional as well as financial crisis of
being arrested for trying to offer or receive sensual fulfillment that should
be honored and encouraged not prosecuted as a crime.
Experiences Of
Others Regarding Legal/Police Issues
From public posts on alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup so no privacy has been
violated. I have however eliminated any names or identifying information
This is NOT Dave's experience (never had a police experience)
but the experience also probably applies in most other American cities:
Someone asked about "Police" and what does/can happen. Well, I guess I
can offer something here as I've gotten involved a couple times over the years...
First, I've only seen Police problems when working with street girls. I've
never known any problems with the incall/outcall services.
First...the WORST case....about 7 years ago in Dallas.
I got caught in a street girl "Sting" operation(!) on Harry Hines. I won't
go into the details on how to spot a sting operation, but NEVER pick up a
street gal who won't get into your car. NEVER, EVER, NO WAY! Get her inside
the car, drive off, do whatever "police checks" you want and THEN negotiate.
Anyway...this one had "the man" awaiting me inside the motel. I was picked
up along with perhaps a couple dozen other "fine, outstanding citizens". Your
car gets towed to some lot where they charge you outrageous prices for towing
and storage, and YOU get thrown into a paddy wagon with the others. For us
that meant in the middle of a Dallas summer and then the SOB's turned on the
HEAT to the back of the paddy wagon! Pure physical hell...
At the station, you are processed in and then thrown into a holding cell
with whatever they have dragged in at the time. It's HERE where you need to
be alert and active. More later... Somewhere, hours later, they walk you in
front of someone posing as a judge as a small group and the charges are read,
and then you're hustled back into the same holding cell. Later, they transfer
you to other cells. In my case, I went to a single cell, and later to a cell
holding about a dozen people after a "great shower" and getting into the prison
garb whites. Somewhere along the line I got finger printed too... BTW, don't
plan on sleeping too much.
Final end of the story...I got out the next day on bail of about $400....had
to return to Dallas to trial....got fined another $400..... I figure it cost
me about $1000 total plus time, plus hassle, plus....My ONLY tip, other than
to avoid stings <grin> is to really do some 'networking' when you're in the
holding cell with you mutually arrested cell mates. Actually, they were my
sole source of advice. Since I was from out of town, I had to post bail(!)
while they got out free, after someone came and got them. Through these contacts,
I was able to find a bail bondsman who was willing (most are NOT interested
in these cases!) who finally sprung me the next day after what seemed like
two lifetimes. Of course, his "fee" was that he got the bond back...not me.
My suggestion, if you're gonna' play this way....either carry one of those
"Bail Bond Cards" that some insurance companies or the AAA can issues, or
make sure your ATM card can get you out since most jails now have ATM's <grin>.
Otherwise...you sit there until trial OR someone comes to get you like your
wife.....NOT FUN I imagine.
Now... a couple OTHER occurrences...
In San Antonio, I picked up a street walker and was immediately shadowed
by an unmarked vice car. Finally he pulled me over. I just talked 'nice' to
him saying I was giving her a ride home etc.... Right... After about 10 minutes
of hassle, he gave me TWO tickets. Said that I had made an illegal turn and
obstructed traffic. Nice...can't take defensive driving for TWO tickets...
but no other problems.
In Phoenix one time, a similar thing happened. As it occurred just AFTER
I picked her up, I immediately pulled into a 7-11 store lot, we got out, and
walked into the store. Police just stopped, looked, and drove on. Lucky.
Dave's comments: While not having any personal experience (again this report
is not mine) I do monitor a police radio and hear the sting operations, especially
on Van Buren which have seemed to increase lately. They will arrest the hooker
if she offers sex to a undercover cop and they periodically have women undercover
cops that arrest men. As the other report indicated the key is to be sure
the women gets in your car, as a police decoy will not do this (too risky
for her).
The police do harass others but can't arrest them. For example I heard
this common situation. The vice detective sees a car pick up a girl. Follows
them to nearby ATM machine (24th St/ Washington). Then follows to Log Cabin
motel. They wait until after he gets a room and comes out of the office. Then
unmarked cars move in. Now they DO NOT have any probably cause for arrest
since they can not prove any illegal deal took place. But they will hassle
you for id and maybe give you a lecture. They check both for any outstanding
warrants and if the women is on "restriction". Being on restriction means
she was previously been found guilty of solicitation and is restricted from
being on the streets in certain geographical areas of Phoenix. If no warrants
etc. the police have to let them go.
If anyone else has any experiences to share which will be anonymously of
course via this list, it would be interesting.
Police Identifying Themselves
from Texas but is relevant all over:
If there was some secret way of forcing a cop to identify himself, don't
you think that drug dealers would have found it by now. Only stupid drug dealers
would be arrested!
My youngest brother is a deputy Dallas constable. Cops must identify themselves
when making an arrest, serving warrants, and other such times. Some police
depts. may have different policies however. There is no Supreme Court tested
method of forcing a cop to id himself.
In Texas, prostitution is defined as soliciting or receiving money for
a sex act (watch out for those lap dances for pay!). If you visit a young
lady for 'counseling', 'massage' or a 'dance lesson' and things click so well
that you end up in bed - why that's not prostitution! }:-> Even if you give
her a tip afterward. BTW, lewd dancing has a greater penalty than prostitution!
It's better for a topless dancer to fuck a vice cop for money than to dance
for him! Isn't that an asinine law!
Most police depts. have a policy that a vice officer may not imbibe drugs
or engage in a sex act in the performance of his/her duties. So don't discuss
sex and money together until both parties have undressed and a bit of fondling
has occurred; i.e., you touch her tits or pussy, she massages your cock. But
cops have been known to LIE in court even for such minor things as traffic
tickets!
Mexico City has the right idea!
MEXICO CITY, Jan. 20, 1997 (UPI) -- Members of Mexico City's Legislative Assembly
say they are preparing rules to regulate prostitution in the capital, currently
practiced by an estimated 90,000 women. Pedro Penaloza, who heads the assembly's
security commission, Monday told Mexico City's Radio Red that the new regulations
should be ready by March, and could be followed by federal legislation. The
city's Human Rights Commission has called for regulations to protect prostitutes
and their clients from extortion from police, although a representative for
prostitutes says such regulation could encourage the practice. Penaloza says
prostitution should be recognized as a service offering sex for payment, and
not as something that is merely tolerated. He added that Mexico City was like
``one giant tolerance zone.'' The head of the capital's Human Rights Commission,
Luis de la Barreda, says prostitution is not illegal, ``nor a civic offense,
although some practices related to prostitution can be crimes.'' De la Barreda
says a number of parish priests in downtown Mexico City have spoken in favor
of regulating prostitution.
In Houston New Law Makes Strip Clubs
More Dangerous Than Toxic Waste.
The Houston City Council met and enacted into law ALL of the proposed new
measures directed towards shutting down the topless and other SOB licensed
business. The significant parts of the law include 1) new (NOT GRANDFATHERED)
minimum distances including distances between clubs, 2) 3 foot dancer rule
at ALL times, 3) Minimum lighting requirements, 4) No VIP or similar rooms,
and 5) Dancers must obtain a city 'license' and wear a badge at all times
in the club. The minimum distance rules will shut down something like 17 of
the 19 upscale clubs in town ! Obviously, the lawyers for the clubs will work
to obtain injunctions, but....... it's probably safe to say that no matter
WHAT happens, things will change in the Houston clubs and NOT for the better.
As an example of just how these new regulations were directed at shutting
down the clubs, and NOT the 'protect the kids and neighborhoods', just the
other month, the city of Houston enacted some new, updated laws concerning
hazardous waste sites. Under the new hazard laws, the sites must not be placed
closer than 500 yards to schools, homes, etc. AND the existing sites were
grandfathered into perpetual compliance. For the topless clubs (and similar)
the restriction is 1500 yards (!) including from each other, and no grandfathering.....
Disclaimers
There are numerous laws related to how consenting adults can or cannot sensuously
enjoy themselves. As a result of confusion about these laws, there may be
a tendency to limit our behavior unnecessarily. As the legal boundaries of
sex work are explored, this should not be taken to indicate encouragement
of illegal prostitution, regardless of how immature and intrusive we may view
such laws. My interest is in encouraging lovingly intimate sensuous
encounters between consenting adults. Under no circumstance do I condone or
encourage illegal behavior. I receive no financial benefit from any
sex worker for any illegal services. What is frustrating to many is
not knowing where the line is drawn between legal and illegal sensuous behavior.
One purpose of this site is sharing those rules and making them available
to other consenting adults. A special thanks to Clarity for her great legal
research and information referenced and linked in this section. I provide
no former legal advice on this site but simply ideas. I am not a lawyer
and have no legal training. Any discussion or writing about law on this site
is purely conjecture. If you benefit or suffer from any information on this
site,it is not my responsibility.
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