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I found most of the bars in Nana, quite nice with attractive
dancers. There are about 30 different bars and I only sampled a few of
them. I wasnt swarmed by women like I was at the Soi Cowboy bars
which has both pros and cons since Ive learned how to deal effectively with
the masses. At the Nana bars usually some nice gal will sit with you or you can
invite someone over.
My first night I had my diet cokes and did one barfine. The G
Spot was a bit too dark for my taste. I like to see a dancers body, not
have it so dark. I barfined near closing one bargirl but dont recall which
bar she was from. We went to Nana Guest House, one of the two short time hotels
in the Nana Complex. The hotel cost was 300B. So total cost was 500b barfine,
1000b for the girl and 300 for the room for a total of 1800B or about $46 US.
Another night I returned to Nana (in the rain) and only went to Fan Asia
on the 2nd floor. Many attractive dancers and one young one with my
preferred body type (slim and tall) joined me. She knew very little English but
was cute trying to communicate. She seemed a bit more timid than some, but nice.
Later I learned that she had just started working in the bar. I did barfine her
and the mama was giving her all sorts of instructions. Wish I knew Thai to know
what they were saying! This time went to the other short time hotel (Taboo) on 3rd
floor, which was 325baht for 2 hours. I paid 500b barfine, 1000b for the girl,
and 325b for the hotel. I much preferred using the short time hotels instead of
taking her all the way back to my much nicer hotel. Total about $48 US.
Most reports agree that Nana is one of
the best places for quality of girls and honesty. However, there seems to
be a couple very bad apples in the bunch that are giving Nana a bad name.
The problems seem isolated however, at only a couple of the 30 Nana Plaza bars.
Rainbow Bar I & II WARNINGS
There has been some very disturbing reports on TSM regarding bargirl
scams at this bar and customers being beaten if they complain. Based on this I
would totally avoid these two bars.
The reports are the scam is often done by one of the most
beautiful bargirls. But when the customer barfines her, she never returns to him
to go with him but moves on to other customers. One report from someone who says
he saw this happen said when she walked by him much later the customer grabbed
her arm and asked "where have you been". Immediately thugs at the bar
attacked him, kicking him and dragged him out of the bar all bloody. In addition
one of the other bargirls stole his wallet when he was lying on the floor.
Another person who lives in Bangkok says:
It seems that the Tourist Police, will help
recover the money stolen if they are notified, but they often wont charge any
Thai with assault if the customer made any physical move to try and get back his
If you are scammed, go directly to the Tourist
Police which have a station at the corner a block from Nana Plaza and complain,
but dont even "grab the arm" of the person that scammed you or you
could wind up on the wrong end of a kick boxing demonstration.
Many reports say that the Tourist Police are
actually very helpful if they believe you are truthful about being cheated in a
bar or have other problems.
Another more typical scam is being reported by
different people at Rainbow II. They agree to long term (all night) barfine and
1500b for the girl. Reports say: "The girls consistently are coming
up with the same story as why they could not stay long time even though they
liked us sooo much. Standard story was that they had a sister that just arrived
that night and didn't have any food or money so they had to get back home in a 2
hours to feed them. Sorry for the misunderstanding, thought we only wanted short
time. The both demanded the full amount agreed to as well (1500baht)."
Overall, Thailand is a very safe place. Crime is at a
relatively low levels (considering the poverty there is). I keep remembering all
the armed security guards in and police in military type uniforms most
everywhere I went in Manila. Eating at a McDonalds with heavily armed police
guarding you was a new experience! I saw none of that in Bangkok, since crime is
much lower from all the reports Ive read. But you still should be careful of
pickpockets etc just like in any major city in the world.
There has been a lot of follow-up discussion of this incident
and the conclusion seems to be that it is very rare in Thailand where your more
at risk of being smiled to death than attacked physically.
Thai men can get very jealous of their women, but the culture
normally avoids physical violence. But occasionally such incidents do occur and
have been reported at times in the Bangkok Post. However, compare this to the
U.S. where such assaults are so common they never get reported by the press
unless someone is killed since non lethal physical violence happens all the time
and isnt newsworthy.
There have been other negative comments about the Rainbow
group of bars (RB1 & RB2). It that most of the ladies in these bars have
LOTS of attitude. The management also is very pushy with the drinks, LDs and BFs.
Someone said they were kicked out of the bar for nursing only 1 drink over
a half-hour period. They wanted him to order another drink, buy lady drinks or
pay-up and get out. Also, the bars (especially RB2) attracts lots of
Japanese tourists so the ladies are now very used to big wallets.
I fortunately never had any bad experiences at any bar or go go.
I never felt pressured for lady drinks, only had my diet coke and only bought
one lady drink at a time for one lady. The cost of lady drinks varied from
about 50B to 95B ($1.25-$2.40US).
There are also reports that at some Nana bars if you go to
the men's room when you return you may find a bunch of added bar tabs in your
bowl (where they drop off the bills for each drink). A report on TSM says
when one person left money for just the drinks he ordered and walked out he was
attacked by many Thai men. He just kept walking fast into a more public area and
eventually the Thais stopped hitting him. Fortunately these experiences are rare
but they do happen which gives all the bars a bad reputation if it becomes
This is a after-hours pickup place somewhat similar to the Thermae (I
discuss later). It is located inside the Nana Hotel. After the Nana complex
closes at 2am the girls who have not been barfined out, or those that come back
to make more money may hang out here. The drinks are quite expensive at 100B and
are aggressively pushed on you. It is easier to just hang out or observe people
at the Thermae without the drink pressure.
Outside Nana Plaza Entrance
seems to be popular gathering spot for .... ELEPHANTS
Elephant Pictures from: http://community-1.webtv.net/OttoU/Thailand1999/
Left Picture: Tail
Lights Elephants have to obey all traffic laws.
Right Picture says:Walk under the
elephant for good luck - 24 baht"
Link to More Street Pictures Dave
took on Soi 3 and nearby area
Sorry I took pictures early morning - no
sexy girls that might be offended if had pictures taken and no pictures allowed
in the bars. So its just interesting street scenes. You have to go
there to meet all the attractive women that want to be with you!
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